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Hey all! Some new feelings are discovered, and some relationships begin to take a turn for the better. But just when things are looking up, the Green-Eyed Monster rears its ugly head to ruin everything. Ki-tae stands in the middle of a tea-candle heart, surrounded by heart-shaped balloons and holding a bouquet of roses. Back in the present, Ki-tae and Jang-mi have been on their knees for quite some time in front of Grandma, who upbraids them for lying about being engaged. Jang-mi tries to explain that she understands how Ki-tae feels about wanting to be alone, after experiencing his family.

The power dynamic is slightly different when it's a woman with a man, but I'm not excluding that case. I'm saying that the majority of cases are men raping women. And in most cases the point of it is power over the victim, not for sex. Also as an aside, in most of those cases, there is an argument that many of those men also feature sexual dysfunction. Why is it different with a woman with a man versus a man with a woman?

It's like saying black people are racist-they can be discriminatory, but they can't be racist. The power dynamic has been and will probably be for a long time that men have power over women, especially coming out of an agricultural society. Men have more power in organizations and social circles. For example, how women are treated when she sleeps with someone else versus that of a man.

As it stands, South Korean law does not have the drunk part of the law, which is how Park Si Ho could admit his wrongdoing and get away with what in US courts would give him serious jail time. I believe it's aeven for admitting it, but I'm sketchy on particulars of US law and it may vary by state. I'm unclear on Japan, though I think it is after that long held sexual abuse case where a sexual abuser forced a girl to marry him.

But yeah, don't blame the woman for getting roofied by accidentdrunk or otherwise. Remember the power dynamic first, then judge. And I wouldn't call her names for getting drunk, saying no and then the man raping her. There is absolutely no excuse for rape. And it is rap if he's under the influence or not.

In this case, he consented under the influence of alcohol when she didn't. And he didn't dislike it afterwards. Plus it's kinda questionable if she did it for a power play, since she had no power over him and the only lodged rape cases against women where the platiff was a man have been women who sexually abused boys which is clear and women who forced it in a sexual harassment case.

I did once hear a case of a woman falsely and knowingly saying someone was the father for money. However, none of those quite apply here.

One of the arguments was she was the aggressor, which I thought, of course, because she was drunk. You are uninhibited when you are intoxicated, but that does not mean you are aware of your actions.

How many times have you woken up after a night of drinking and not remember anything that happened the night before? Me, zero, but it does happen. In this situation, Hoon Dong did not even make any advances on Hyun Hee. When she kissed him, he could have thought she was Jang Mi, whom he still had feelings for, for all we know.

It certainly was not consensual. Natural is also mom's reaction - after her first intro to JM was knowing she used to date HD just before. It is also quite natural that JM finally has a consequence to all her romantic indecisions, in such a short span of time. After his abandonment, this dude must somehow have developed some survival instincts to protect him.

That, was so undeserving. All in all Hoon Dong deserves her. He's such a wimp spoiled brat. Still hated what he did to Jang Mi. I didn't have any real expectations for this show when it first came out, but it completely blindsided me!

It's turning out so much better than I could have anticipated :. I'm afraid I don't understand why HD has to marry that gold-digger, when she raped him n got herself pregnant. Even in countries where abortions r illegal, rape pregnancies are exceptions.

She obviously didn't know or care anything about him other than that he was JM's RICH BF, and as she admits to him, she is a plotter and schemer, to get them where they are. He ran away from JM calling her a stalker, after they dated for 3? Now he walks down the aisle w this girl, who he hasn't been in love with. That's a plot pt that I don't quite get. She is too embarrassed to continue to date him. So she ignores or covers up her strong feelings for him and turns her back.

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I sort of understand at a cerebral level what they r saying, but don't entirely follow on an emotional one. JM's mom has been blaming her husband for a long time, for the life that she lives, which contains a lot of work at their resto w very little pay.

She's been grating her teeth about it in resentment for years. Now she wants a divorce, Becos JM points out that they haven't shared a breakfast or a dinner as a family for as long as she can remember. So mom wants to put a stop to her marriage which is a sham.

It's a bit sudden, but there we have it. I guess there r 2 ice queens in this show: JM's mom and KT's mom. Unhappy marriages can do that to a woman. Wonder if JM's GF will turn into sb like that in time. But then she'll have her dependent credit cards to comfort and console her. Hyun Hee did not rape him and get herself pregnant.

It was obvious that she never intented to get pregnant, and also that she has acutal feelings for Hoon Dong. Hoon Dong was kicked out of his house, yet she still married him. Thats not what gold diggers do. Also rape is a very sensitive topic, dont use it when its not appropriate.

She deliberately gets a guy drunk, so drunk that he is flat out. She proceeds to undress him and have sea with him. To me that is rape.

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What would you call it if a guy gets a girl so drunk that she can't give consent, and then proceeds to have sex with her? Date rape? Semi rape? Quasi rape? Was he really 'flat out' at that point of time? Like he didn't really reciprocate at all?

See, if that's the case, then I kinda have to take back a lot of things that I said in a post below. I was under the impression that Hoon Dong knew what he was doing then.

It is just something he deeply regrets or wishes hadn't happened. I did not really get a 'was forced to have sex' vibe from Hoon Dong's actions the next day and keeping with the light tone of the drama and the player attitude of Hoon DOngI don't think the writers were going for that.

But I actually see what you and a lot of others mean when you call it rape, but it is still a very sensitive word to be thrown out so casually.

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Gosh, I am coming across as a troll for being so effing fixated on that word. Please don't hate me, beanies!

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I lub you all. You're not off base. I think whats nice about how his storyline developed was that he took ownership of his choices that night. If you're going to get that drunk you have to be prepared to live with consequences you'll regret. While I agree that rape is too strong a word, I doubt her feelings for Hoon-dong are anything sincere. Hyun-hee is exact opposite of Jang-mi, in that Jang-mi's feelings and action come from the heart, while Hyun-hee's from brain, making her feelings and action cold and calculated.

Yes, maybe she didn't expect to get pregnant. But she didn't sleep with Hoon-dong because she sincerely love him either, or even just to have good time.

She do it for her own gain. More like so she can have 'deeper connection' or some sort of hook, because it was clear that Hoon-dong didn't intend to go anywhere serious with her before that. When she actually got pregnant, she use it to the max.

All her actions so far reeks of manipulation. While Hoon-dong was kicked out, at least he still have money and Hyun-hee still can depend on him to provide for her.

In the end, all she think of is herself, making her a really dislikeable character. And what's the problem with that? I mean, probably most of the kdramas leading men are selfish and we like them.

A month if being pragnent. Because they are leading men? We see things from their point of view most of the time, making us more likely to root for them. I don't see any for hyun hee so far.

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Also, leading men selfish tendency are more of "I only care about myself, don't want to have anything to do with others, don't care if I frankly show my selfishness either". While hyun-hee: "I only care about myself, but I won't really show it.

I will do things with others, as long as it serve my own gain". Like I said, manipulator. At least leading men are honest? The "rape" word is tossed around FAR too carelessly.

And to equate what happened in the episode with real rape is totally over the top. And it cheapens the trauma of real rape victims. If you want to see what REAL rape looks like, try spending a few weeks volunteer service at a battered women's shelter, where rape victims have broken bones, smashed faces, and damaged genitals.

If u don't like the word rape. If u took this case to court and reverse the gender would u say then it wasn't rape. He admit the next day thay it was a mistake on his part because he didn't even remember doin. He wasn't in the right state of mind to make a logical choice.

So there's REAL rape, and what? It only counts as rape if it involves the kind of violence that breaks your bones and damages your genitals? If that doesn't happen, then you haven't really been raped? You've just I just don't even know. Rape is sexual intercourse without consent. It need not involve brutal physical force, and to acknowledge this does not in any way diminish the terrible experiences of people whose rapes involved violence and physical coercion.

Hyun Hee knew Hoon Dong got thrown out, she was there when it happened. She didn't know he lost his job. I think that's the theme of this drama - Marriage Not Dating a.

Marriage Without Dating. I just feel that their story isn't necessary, really. I don't quite understand Hyun-hee, and what motivates her. She's materialistic for sure, but now she seems sincere towards Hoon-dong and willing to marry him after he literally disowned by his mother.

Honestly I never care for her or Hoon-dong throughout this show, so I don't really mind if they marry or not. I think she's close to JM because of her rich boyfriend. Not that she intended to steal him from her when they were still together but more like tagging along with JM to get to know HD's friends, and eventually letting herself into the riches's circle. She's a cunning opportunist, so when JM broke up with HD she didn't wait long to snatch him away. But I'm relieved that Se-ah wasn't that evil to use the same tactic to entrap Gi-tae.

Come to think of it, I want to take back my earlier comment about HH seems to be sincere towards HD, because now I'm not sure anymore. I will ask a shallow question. For a cable channel. On a wekeend. Where all the characters have slept around before. For goodness sakes why haven't the OTP had some make out or bed scene? Did anyone else notice a few episodes back when Ki-Tae was dragged to the sperm bank and he said he'd been really busy so he had taken a break from intimate relations Who's he been doing it with if he hasn't been having sex with Jang Mi or with Se Ah?

LOL I'm pretty sure that was his pride talking. He didn't want the receptionist to know that it's been much longer than that. Actually it was the receptionist who asked him whether he had sex in the last 3 days you need to have given a break of a few days before a donation and he fibbed not to accept it actually had been much longer than that. This reminds me of something else though: I assume Ki-tae downing the beer in the truth or dare game when asked how far he went with Se-ah means they went all the way?

That doesn't really bother me but considering Jang-mi's proposal to Hoon-dong was in a hotel room with the bed all prepared with roses and such and knowing Hoon-dong's superficiality I assume they had sexual relationships as well and that I find a bit tasteful I mean the fact of Jang-mi dating two friends one after the other like that - same of course is valid for Hyun-hee but I have no respect for her as a person so I am not surprised she would have done something I would find distasteful.

They're normal adults so no surprise there. Idk maybe he hoped that JM would be disgusted with GT and stop liking him? It makes sense why he's nervous and unwilling to answer it coz it's a bit awkward to declare to someone he likes that he slept with his ex-gf even though she already knew that lol I don't know about JM but if I were her, I wouldn't want to hear the man I like shares that info with me.

I mean of course I knew you slept with your ex-gf but shut up I don't want to hear you say it out loud :p YR really enjoyed putting him in an awkward situation, the cheeky bastard. I didn't like this turn of events. I feel the show went original to cliche. I don't understand se-ah and yeo-reum's purpose to the story. They were used like props to prolong the inevitable and as delicious eye candy.

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I wish that either the leads had a deeper connection with the 2nd leads or that the writers would have used them in a different way. Aw, I admit I wasn't expecting the ending to go that way, but at least they're finally on their way to each other for real now! I got super scared when Jang-mi told him to go to Se-ah though because while I'm totally with her on her reasons for pushing him away, saying something like that and throwing the phone would have been the first time that I had a hard time understanding her actions so I'm glad that doing those things led to her ultimate realization that she can't let him go :.

Poor Ki-tae was finally so ready, I wish he hadn't told her to speak first!!! I can understand why he reacted the way he did because he has no idea that she likes him and to suddenly hear those words. But seriously. Thank god they started running for each other. Because it's time for some honesty. Their scenes with their parents were so heart wrenching though, especially Jang-mi's with her parents. Seriously, that poor girl. It makes their separation all the more sad when their families fall apart as a result.

Them being together just made everything in their lives better and I just want them to all be a big, happy family minus the sleazy dad. BUT I'm glad that the show was able to make fun of itself a little with the scene between Hoon-dong and Jang-mi.

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I know I shouldn't have been laughing, but their pity party was freakin' hilarious! And it was refreshing to have Jang-mi simply find out about Ki-tae's feelings from him. Ahhh, the separation, it hurts, but it hurts so goooood. I so wanted Ki-tae at least to have sent photos of the proposal display to omoni as she requested so that Jang-mi could see it.

It was such a reversal from the first time day met during which she laid out a similar display for his friend that it was a shame she never knew about it. I know, me too! And if her mom had seen it then she totally would have known he was being sincere!

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I seriously want her to get that proposal SO badly now. Like it better happen. In fact, it needs to be even better than the one Se-ah had the pleasure of crashing. It needs to be epic. I am not Asian so I don't know how common these grand gestures are in real life but I have a sense dramas make people expect these things and life starts to imitate the art after a while.

For example, I find typical drama date to be quite formulaic. So I generally find these kinds of things quite cheesy. But in Ki-tae's case it was so unlike him and showed how much he loved and valued Jang-mi to do that for her that I found it adorable.

He was so excited and happy with himself, too. Yea I totally agree about it was great to have Jang-mi just find out about Ki-tae liking her. There was no fanfare, just his best friend telling her and her realizing their feelings were mutual.

It's so ridiculously realistic and simple which makes it all the more heartbreaking. Maybe he can propose to her again soon This time with complete honesty and their families approving wholeheartedly!

Was the noble idiocy really necessary when it lasted all of five minutes and an expensive phone was lost in the process? Nevertheless, I do think this is a realistic conflict because Mom, being a victim of cheating, will never forgive cheaters. So Jang Mi legitimately believes she will forever be branded as a cheater by Mom and will never be able to recover from that, thus decides to leave Ki Tae "for his own good.

Took her long enough, jeez. I am just thankful the noble idiocy was contained to one episode. This must be Hoon Dong's purpose in the show. The ensuing scene of them wallowing in self-pity was priceless; I don't know how Han Groo and Heo Jung Min were able to film that without bursting into laughter. I am glad that after their really bad breakup, they were able to remain friends who genuinely worry about each other.

I was counting on those loose lips. I love when Ki Tae blew up about Dad being a two-timing bastard because he was only speaking the truth, and Mom needed to hear it.

Jang Mi's mom better be planning something with Dad with her request for a divorce, like trying to drive the two kids closer when they try to convince her to stay or pushing Jang Mi to turn to Ki Tae when she needs a shoulder to cry on; otherwise, I do not understand why Mom would selfishly do that at a sensitive time like time.

When Grandma said, "You've been watching them all this time, so you will know, too," I wish she meant, "you will know they have real feelings for each other," which we confirmed last episode that Mom does know. I was actually surprised it was an LG instead of a Samsung, yk maybe they threw it on purpose in the HR so that they'd get her a proper Korean brand Even though Ki-tae had bought it she didn't even need to dump the phone.

She just needed to get rid of the SIM card. Regarding cheating: not only was she not with Ki-tae when she was seeing Yeo-reum but also she wasn't going behind Ki-tae's back. He knew about their relationship. That, plus the fact that her initial intro to JM was also the title of HD's ex and the quick recovery into KT's current albeit fake.

That was some '2 timing' as even while officially 'dating' YR the dating as the 3 of them understood it she was already developing feelings for Ki Tae, but yet not ending it with YR in a more decisive, cleaner cut.

Even when it was clear YR knew, JM never quite came out to clarify anything with YR, nor did she officially cut off their relationship - which is why they were still kissing last wkend, when she interrupted the YR kiss. Jang Mi was still confused about her true feelings until the end of this episode. It might have been wrong for her to continue stringing YR along, but honestly it is consistent with her character to cling to a relationship and do things the messy way.

I think it is possible for relationships to get complicated and people to get hurt even if no one did anything really wrong. This was a difficult episode, and I'm not sure I liked it as a whole some of the angst just didn't move mebut one breakthrough that I DID like was the breakup of Jang Mi's parents.

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I actually really empathized with Jang Mi's wish for her parents to stay together her reason for the sham engagement definitely resonated with me a lot more than Ki Tae's desire to be left alone - it's such a childlike desire - but that's also my problem with Jang Mi.

As an almost year-old woman at least according to the character profilesit's more than time for her to view the situation through adult lenses, and accept that a marriage can be saved or not only by the 2 people participating in it. Yay for growth! Albeit painful growth. I think that Jang Mi's parents should have broken up a long time ago, it is obvious the are at constant war so why keep dragging it out. But people do that - they are so afraid of uncertainty and change that they stick with a bad situation.

Thanks for the recap. Let's have more cute moments with our lead couple. Hope it's god riddance now for Se Ah and Yeo reum.

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YWJ and HG play their characters so well. I enjoy watching their lovely couple moments together and now they would have to deal with the parents.

This is definitly alot better then i expected. I really love how hoon dong and jang mi are friends and not awkward. Even Se ah, seemed redeemable after telling Ki tae to go after Jang mi which was a nice twist for her, though i dont doubt she may try something else later, i would love to see her, instead of being the pathethic, revenge-driven, typical female second lead, being Jang mi's friend, since they are in some ways pretty similar.

Also, I have no Sympathy what so ever for Yeo Reum. Setting Jang Mi up was not cool, but not even feeling slightly guilty about? Honestly dont know what his deal is. I really dont want him to mess with Jang Mi and Ki Tae anymore. I thought since u were doing the two recaps this one was goin to take longer but kudos to u. Onto the show. I love how everything played out. All the imaginary scenes were so cute. I wish they hurry up and get together so we can see some home living hijinks from the both of them.

All in all the progress of this episode made giant leaps in each character. JM being alone but I was so happy that KT was the first person on her mind before she realized jt. I'm waiting to see him sell him house he loves so much so that he can show his family how much he truly cares for her. Kt mom is making a turn for the better but I'm surprise she is still putting up with her husband. I would be too embarrass to even meet the person.

This was probably on re of the better episodes for me since we got so few screen times with the second leads and jm and hoo. Crying to each other about how their lives suck was epic and it would of been much weirder if jm didn't get fired so glad they kept thay realistic. The noble idiocy act for this I understand because she doesn't want more distance between kt and his mom and I see where she is coming from. I'm dying now since we don't even get previews.

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I personally don't mind the pacing of the OTP. I think it's realistic and quite necessary, especially for MND, seeing how that's the main plot of the drama- to get into a fake marriage and eventually fall for each other.

If they were to get together too soon, it would only mean that they have to keep arguing with their parents that they truly want to be together.

But having said that, I guess I can't help being frustrated at the same time. It's only natural for many viewers to be so irritated at the pacing of the drama, seeing how we're so affected by the OTP because they're just so endearing! Their chemistry is spot on. I guess this is why I can't wait to see them finally confessing their love TO each other soon.

It pains me to see them so fond of each other, and yet be so conflicted for not being able to confess at the same time given their current situation. I honestly think I'm the only person not bothered by the pacing or by the fact that the truth has only just come out. The show is about a fake marriage. Why would I be upset that they continued to pretend to be fake engaged for so long?

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The important players the parents hadn't found out yet so the ruse could totally continue. Plus I think the show has done a great job of exposing all of the issues facing the OTP with regards to their ability to accept their feelings for one another and actually choose to be together.

That doesn't just go away. If anything, I wish the show had spent more time allowing the OTP to reflect on their issues and start working through them so that when the happy ending comes, I can feel satisfied that these two actually have the ability to HAVE a lasting, healthy relationship. As it stands now, I still think they both but especially KiTae need a lot of therapy to get in a good place first.

To add, I did feel somewhat frustrated at the way things were playing out; however my issue was not with the fake engagement BUT with the fact that the writers chose to use the second leads as wrenches to prolong the conflict and keep them apart.

I'm perfectly fine with them telling me that KT and SA needed closure but to have her throw herself at him repeatedly and to go to ever greater lengths to be with him when he has made it very clear from day one that he's not interested in being with her - that frustrates me. Second leads serve a purpose but eventually it gets to a point where it's time to wrap things up with them and focus on the OTP and I wish the show had done that a little faster.

I'm afraid that's what the writer would do. Purposely leave us hanging here expecting the inevitable and then crush our hope. I'll curse the writer if they don't confess their feelings in the nxt episode. It sure as hell has been dragged on too long already. I'm losing my patience here. I have a feeling that both of them could still pop up with an eleventh-hour scheme to break up the newfound couple assuming that Jang-mi and Ki-tae acknowledge their feelings soon and throw one last wrench into things".

Oh I worry about that too though I think they can't do much damage now even if they try because it seems that both Gi-tae and Jang-mi finally realize that they can't deny their feelings any longer. My heart sank when Jang-mi asked Gi-tae to go to Se-ah, and sank even deeper when he really grabbed Se-ah's hand and walked past her.

I seriously hate their moment of noble idiocy in this episode, but fortunately it doesn't last long. I don't like Hyun Hee at all but she did not "rape" him, had a one night stand by manipulating and seducing a drunken guy when he was at his weakest, yes. I have no idea why this is irritating me and I am sure nobody is saying that in the literal sense hopefully but it is a touchy subject for a lot of people, a package that comes with a lot of trauma and psychological problems.

On to the episode, I found this week's episodes to be the weakest. I know angst is necessary, but denial angst is something I can't get behind. And it's not even for the right reasons. It did not make any sense. But the last scene gives me hope. I cannot wait for these two to be together.

Furthermore, the way Hoon-dong is portrayed I'm not sure he would have acted any differently if he was sober. He was in no condition to give proper consent. If it had been the other way around, people would be outraged. The other way around? Well,it is one thing to be seduced by a guy when you are drunk and another to be raped by him. People would be outraged. Honestly, I will be outraged too but I would have said the same thing then.

You see, consent when you are drunk is a little hazy pun intended. In no way did it look like Hyun Hee overpowered Hoon Dong and forced him against his wishes to sleep with him and his reaction the next day made it clear that yes, at that point when he wasn't sober he was willing but he regrets it later on. For people who seem to be really hung up on Hyun Hee's act as NOT rape bc Hoon Dong was drunk and lonely, it can actually be considered rape.

Consent is not hazy at all especially when intoxicated, people are not in their right mind to give consent.

If people were to look up this situation, agencies and support groups that help rape victims definitely define this as taking advantage of someone sexually and as rape. Others are claiming that Hoon Dong participated for them to actually get pregnant. However, that's not really the case, a guy can be 'ready' without him controlling it or even have the decision to make it happen if someone gives him a 'helping hand.

And as someone who knows the lifestyle of clubbing and having one night stands and encourages her friend JM to have one night standsit's hard for me to believe that she doesn't consider the possibility of getting pregnant accidentally which makes it even harder for me to believe that she was not angling towards the possibility of getting pregnant after saying she is not a nice girl.

KT even says at one point that Korea is not kind to single mothers. It's not like she was overcome with passion that she just had to have HD and she does seem to have a calculating mind. Her entire storyline would really just frustrate me if she had a no-consequence, happy ending.

HD was very responsible about the whole situation and I'm very interested to see how he would live with her after everything is said and done. He seemed to happy and accepting at first but has said to KT that it might have a fleeting moment after finding out HH's lie about her mom. Even after he decides to stay knowing that she's manipulative, will he keep staying with her after getting to know her better and the initial novelty of starting of family wears off as reality sets in?

He might but I don't know if I can picture anyone being happy in this equation. Yes, technically if you are intoxicated and someone were to make a move on you, then even if you are willing about the whole thing, it is still considered rape under law. It might be a really harsh thing to say and I am in no way diminishing the value of such an event, but it's only a personal opinion and we can all agree to disagree on this one :.

Is MND subverting the sweet and lovable best friend of heroine trope here? But that's my fav k-drama trope! And poor Hoon Dong wants to for the first time, probably do the 'right thing' by marrying her. Will she change her manipulative ways? I doubt it. Will he be miserable his entire life? Most probably. Is their kid going to have a lot of childhood issues while growing up? Sometimes as a non-native audience we have to let things go that don't sit right with us.

Wrist grabs disturb me and scream "domestic violence! The show clearly does not feel that it did anything wrong with Hyun Hee and that relationship, so I'm not about to put that on them and essentially rewrite the show when that was never their intention and that is not the story they are telling.

Having said that, I don't think it hurts to point out double standards in a show. Not rewriting the story, but more identifying where the story is weak. So while I don't think it is fair to say she raped him according to the show she obviously didn'tI do think it's fair to point out that the show is operating on a double standard. This episode was so much love and I really appreciate angst without having it dragged out for too long. I know everyone mostly are against noble idiocy but I totally understand why Jang-mi did what she did.

It's a difficult situation because they were already lying too much. Now all of a sudden, the truth is just so much more harder to believe. The whole throwing phone in the river was such a fantastic metaphoric scene. I interpreted it as she Jang-mi thought it would've been right for her to let him go, that she should let him should, that she could But then she throws the phone with his name flashing on the screen before it falls in the water. And its like this sudden realization that she can't.

She can't let him go for someone else, that she can't have his voice die on her like that, that she isn't okay without him in her life It was such a perfect moment and so freakin well executed. Gah, this show is SO good. I just adore Hoon-dong and Ki-tae's relationship. They're the definition of best friends in every regard because even when Hoon-dong always seems to have the wrong info, he always knows how Ki-tae feels. He can read him even when the latter feels the need to conceal every emotion.

It's so subtle but clearly obvious. I hope the writers explore their relationship more as we progress. Now Hoon-dong and Jang-mi are just sugar, spice and everything nice put together lmao. I was giggling as they cry their hearts out. I'd love to have that kind of relationship with my ex, and this works for them much better because being besties suits their personalities more. Everyone's relationships in this show is so well written and everyone just seems to naturally blend with each other in terms of personalities.

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I'm very thankful for the lack of Yeo-rim and limited Se-ah in this episode. Hopefully Ki-tae and Jang-mi doesn't allow them into their relationship anymore and that they work on getting their families believe that their love is true this time around. It's a difficult task, given all the lies and deceit behind them.

It's gonna be a while, but I hope they'll eventually prevail because their families were much happier when this wedding was to happen, than now that its broken.

Best scene? That was a hilarious musical choice that basically made the episode for me.

thank for

I really hate that they ended the episode with them running towards each other and did not show them actually meeting. I feel like there is going to be some kind of interruption I really hope they have the glorious reunion and reveal of their mutual love that they should! For the first time, I thought HyunHee was ok in this episode.

At least she came clean about being shady and manipulative I liked how HoonDong noticed that JangMi was going away sad Because he is sweet and thoughtful sometimes. I cried with JangMi when she was talking to her dad about the reason why she let the show go on for longer than she should have Maybe I was just feeling particularly grouchy on Saturday but this episode just really, really annoyed me.

Maybe the awesomness of this show at its start made my expectations too high but this episode just really, really disappointed me. The only character that I truly care about at this point is Ki-tae's mom. I want her to have an independent woman moment, kick her loser husband to the curb and rock her stylish new hairdo with a brand-new empowered attitude. Everyone else, though? As little experience as for-real-dating this pair had, they did have the besties through-thick-and-thin routine down. At least Ki-tae tried, what's with the brain damage Jang-mi?

pity, that

So much for character continuity there. I can't even care about this conflict because I know they'll end up together anyway so it just seems stupid and forced. Unless they don't meet as they run back to each other and we do a time skip into the future where it shows how much they've matured on their own then this whole episode served no purpose at all. She's a ball of crazy and it truly worries me that she's a doctor.

Who would let this woman operate on them? She actually needs to go to a psych ward. It's the only ending for her that will satisfy me. That or if she decides to drop off the grid and go explore the world to find her true self, be one with nature, yaddah yaddah turn the crazy bitch into a feather-in-the-wind, puka-shell-wearing hippie! Don't care about her either I loved him as a character and a rebound for Jang-mi but when he finally decides to be proactive about making sure Ki-tae doesn't steal his girl he does it in a hurtful way?

Not awesome. Also, very unlike how his character had been portrayed up to now What was that about character continuity? Jang-mi's parents? How do you get your meddlesome family off your back? Gi Tae is a confirmed bachelor who has no interest in getting married, but he faces tremendous pressure from his family to settle down.

To get them off his back, Gi Tae brings Joo Jang Mi Han Groo and introduces her as his future wife, knowing full well that his family would never accept her. Jang Mi agrees to the fake relationship because she is starting to lose hope that she will be able to find the perfect love after her failed past relationships.

Can Gi Tae and Jang Mi pull off their ruse or will they get more than they bargained for with their deception? Sorry, this content is not licensed for your region. Click here to learn more. Meet the community members dedicated to bringing you the subtitles for this channel. Please encourage them by leaving a comment below! TV Marriage, Not Dating. Channel Manager. Manage Followers. About How do you get your meddlesome family off your back?

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Marriage Not Dating Ep 11 EngSub Korean Drama PollDrama VIP Wealthy plastic surgeon Gong Ki Tae is a successful and happy bachelor who does not want to find himself. Aug 11,   Marriage Not Dating: Episode 11 by LollyPip. Hey all! I'm covering both of this week's episodes of Marriage Not Dating while girlfriday is at KCON (so jealous!) so please bear with me, I'm not as super-fast as she is! Let's send her and javabeans our best wishes for a fantastic weekend and a safe return!. Ki-tae and Jang-mi aren't bound to their pretend engagement anymore, but /5. Aug 12,   Marriage Not Dating: Episode 12 by LollyPip. There's no more hiding now that everyone knows the engagement was a sham - but rather than putting the issue to rest, the revelation only kicks off more hurt and misunderstandings than it solves/5.

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  3. Zolosida

    Yes well!


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